Thursday, April 30, 2009

Mahipal Virdy - A Poetic Force of Nature

I would like to thank Mahipal Virdy for sharing his very interesting poetic discourse with us. You can find the original at his blog here


Mariana Soffer said...

Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities

Kaz Maslanka said...

Thanks for your comment Mariana.

True - yet, not as dangerous as large quantities of the irrational.


Mariana Soffer said...

I am happy yoou agreed. Txs

Kaz Maslanka said...

From the news today:

Messrs. Buffett and Munger on Math and Theories

Messrs. Buffett and Munger made clear their complete disdain for the use of higher-order mathematics in finance.

"There is so much that's false and nutty in modern investing practice and modern investment banking, that if you just reduced the nonsense, that's a goal you should reasonably hope for," Mr. Buffett said. Regarding complex calculations used to value purchases, he said: "If you need to use a computer or a calculator to make the calculation, you shouldn't buy it."

Said Mr. Munger: "Some of the worst business decisions I've ever seen are those with future projections and discounts back. It seems like the higher mathematics with more false precision should help you, but it doesn't. They teach that in business schools because, well, they've got to do something."

Mr. Buffett said: "If you stand up in front of a business class and say a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, you won't get tenure....Higher mathematics my be dangerous and lead you down pathways that are better left untrod."

Kaz Maslanka said...

I really don’t want to be negative when it comes to pushing the boundaries of applied mathematics however, I have to thank others here that comment on my pages and question the qualities of what I have presented. (not to mention finding my mathematical mistakes) I posted Mahipal’s entry without studying it probably as much as I should have. Ultimately I am not looking to criticize the content of Mahipal’s expression however I may take another look at how it is categorized. There is certainly nothing wrong with expressing ones opinion in mathematical terms however, I am not so sure as to how poetic this entry is. Although the author never claimed it to be poetry, Mahipal does claim that nature is poetic and I am not so sure that nature has the ability to be poetic. (At least not metaphoric) I guess I would question what elements of poetry are found in nature. Sure, nature creates, but so does technology. Could nature’s creative spark be called poetic or artistic? Or is it scientific? Or is it just plain nature and needs no further categorization. Mahipal’s expression seems to ring more at an expression of science as opposed to art or maybe it should be considered philosophy. I just hesitate to call it poetry for poetry never attempts to prove anything. If anyone would like to comment on this I would be happy to hear you out.

Mahipal said...

Kaz, thanks for your questions.

At times, Art is Art and shouldn't be categorized. That is a nice neutral stance.

In the past, many have called meforce an Artifact. There exists no fault in the Math. I've taken liberties with the coincidental homonym "me" for obvious reasons.

Dr. John Wheeler also thought meforce as "surely a poetic thought." I'll post an image, of his handwritten postcard, on my website someday.

I'll have to find the Usenet post where meforce was pointed out as being "a literary feat of unequalled Cardinality." Still love that thought!

Artistically, it makes little difference if meforce is Math, Physics, Poetry, or Philosophy. It's all of them at once.

Thanks again for your thoughts.

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